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Drivetrain Repair Info
  • Temperature Gauge pegs and/or idle bounces.
  • Weak AC (88-89)
  • Trouble Codes
  • Starter Run-on
  • Oil Leaks
  • Clutch Hydraulics
  • Clutch Replacement and Engine Removal Information
  • Timing Belt Replacement
  • Passing smog
  • Smoke on start up
  • Cracked Exhaust Manifold
  • Transmission syncro wear and the infamous 5th gear popout
  • Alternator Failure (Charge, Cooling Fan, and Brake light lit)


Temperature Gauge pegs and/or idle bounces:

In short, you more than likely have air bubbles in your cooling system that must come out. These air bubbles cause the temp gauge to spike since steam is much hotter than water. The reason for the idle bounce is that the air bubbles go past the idle throttle temperature adjustment. Read Tim Kinginsbuy's excellent FAQ on the temp gauge problem:

Overheating FAQ

There is also one other thing that will cause an idle to bounce.  Sometimes if the idle has been incorrectly adjusted too high, the ECU will make the idle bounce as it tries in vain to lower the rpm.  Just manually adjust the idle down to 800rpm once the engine is fully warm, and this should go away.
 

88-89 weak AC:

Due to customer complaints, it was rumored that Toyota in the 88-89 model years lessened the load that the AC puts on the engine thus making less cold air. 
 

Trouble Codes:
(from the Mr2 list)

1. Find the service connector (a little black box, about 1" square near air flow meter). Open it. Short terminals marked T and E1 with a wire.

2. Turn all accessories, especially A/C off. Put the ignition key in ON position. Stare at the "CHECK Engine" light (amber light on the dash). Count the number of times it blinks in 5 seconds.

3. The codes are:

Number of Blinks: Code:

1 Normal 
2 Air Flow Meter 
3 Ignition 
4 Water Temp Sensor 
5 Oxygen Sensor 
6 RPM 
7 Throttle Position Sensor 
8 Intake Air Temp Sensor 
10 Starter 
11 Switch signal (A/C switch ON) 

Now, the above codes are not a gospel truth. Often the computer will decide something is wrong when it is not, and it will point to the wrong sensor. But it's a start. The code will run the light continuously with 2.5 second intervals between the series of pulses, i.e. 5 blinks, 2.5 seconds of nothing, 5 blinks, 2.5 sec..... for O2 sensor. To stop the insanity, remove the jumper between T and E1. I highly recommend to do a check, record the problems, remove the AM2 fuse for 30 seconds (that will cancel the codes in memory) and drive around for a week. Check them again. That way any old code will be canceled and the second reading might point to the actual problem. BTW, if ECU thinks there are multiple problems, it'll give you more than one code, just keep counting
 

Starter Run-on:

Another pretty common problem with older MKI's is the starter will run on. The solenoid in the starter sticks thus causing the problem. You can either spring for a new Toyota starter or get a quality rebuild shop to rebuild it. It is usually not recommended to buy the generic hundred dollar "lifetime guarantee" starters as you will often have a lifetime of replacing them.
 

Oil Leaks:

Out of my many many years of owning AW11s, this is one of the problems that bugs me to no end.  Sometimes you can get lucky, and the oil leak is coming from one of the easy to find sources like valve covers, or from the external distributor o-ring.  But other times, you can chase this problem for years and never solve the problem.  All I can say is good luck.

One of the more common things to do is to first replace the external distributor O-ring.  It will harden over time and let oil through.  Also the valve cover bolts are known to work their way loose, and just need to be tightened. The oil cooler lines are also one of the more common leak points.

Here is a list of known MKI Mr2 oil leak locations: 

1) Cam cover nuts and/or hard valve cover gaskets
2) Distributor O-ring
3) The Oil Cooler Lines (clamps and/or hose)
4) Internal distributor shaft seal allowing oil inside distributor which then leaks out  (see below)
5) Cam Seals
6) O-ring between block and first half of oil filter housing 
7) O-ring between two halves of oil filter housing. 
8) Copper washers where upper oil cooler line meets oil filter housing.
9) Oil Pan gasket

Some of the less common leaks are from an oil filter that is loose, and the front & rear main seals. 

The distributor shaft seal leak can be fixed, but the seal itself cannot be sourced from Toyota.  To get to this seal you have to take apart the distributor.  You will have to more than likely carefully drill out the pin that holds gear in place, and then carefully tap off the gear.  (few have luck pressing out the pin)  Then slide the shaft out and you can see a bearing and seal on the shaft.  The seal can be sourced from larger bearing supply companies.  It is a 20mm OD x 10mm ID x 5mm thick, double lip, spring seal.  (Its reported that the 7mm thick seal works fine as well)  You will then have to either find a new press pin for the gear (4mm x16mm roll pin), or you can order a new gear and pin from Toyota as they do stock these two things.
 

Clutch Hydraulics:

It is a well known problem not only on Mr2s but Toyotas in general, that the clutch hydraulics have a tendency to leak after getting old.  While many have a problem with a leaky master cylinder, others will have a problem with the slave cylinder. (mounted on the transmission)  Most have a problem with both.  When one starts to go, you can usually bet that the other one doesn't have much life left in it. 

Most owners first find out about this problem when they get in their car one day and press the pedal to the floor only to find no resistance and a shifter that wont go into gear.  Usually this can be quickly overcome by a few pedal pumps to get the fluid somewhat pressurized, but you can bet that a replacement will soon be needed.  In addition to this, when the master cylinder goes, it will usually leak both in the front trunk and the passenger compartment under the carpet.  As a result the leaking fluid will eat away the paint on all the surfaces that it comes into contact with.  Be sure to clean this up when replacing the master cylinder. 

While some have luck with the rebuild kits, many do not, and thus spring for a new part.  When bleeding the system out, putting in high-temp brake fluid will give you some assurance that the fluid will not boil on hot summer days, thus avoiding a spongy or nonexistent clutch pedal.
 

Clutch Replacement and Engine Removal information:

While not the easiest job in the world, it is something that can be down with only a few special tools needed. The first article is info given to us on a clutch only replacement.  After doing the job myself, I can pretty much agree with everything that is said there.  The second article is the story of my engine service project on my 87 NA.  I dropped the engine to not only replace the clutch, but also to do some work on the engine.  Hopefully these two articles will let one know what they are getting into when doing this job.  The worst part of a clutch job BY FAR is trying to get the transaxle back onto the crankshaft.  While many struggle with transmission jacks, I found that while somewhat of an overkill, an engine hoist works perfect to hold the transaxle in the air while you try to jiggle it back onto the engine.  Another alternative taken by some to install come-alongs into ceiling trusses to hold/lower/raise the engine and/or transaxle.

Clutch Notes and Engine Removal and Servicing
 

Timing Belt Replacement

It is suggested by Toyota to replace the timing belt every 60k miles.  However this is a job that is not enjoyed by many thus causing procrastination for replacement.  As a result many have found the 60k mile recommendation to be slightly conservative as some have had T-belts last in upwards of 100k.  The engine is also a non-interference design meaning that if the belt does break, the valves will not bash into the pistons.  Nevertheless, regular T-belt replacement is a good practice to get into as this will keep one from breaking down at the worst possible time, something T-belts seem to do. 

So do you want to save some dough and replace it yourself, or do you want to take your chances with your local toyota dealer? 

If you go the dealer route, be sure to look in advance to see whether or not your local dealer or local import specialist runs T-belt specials.  It is common practice for many Toyota dealers and import repair shops to have $150-$250 specials to drum up business.  However if you do go a to dealer, it is suggested to be very careful in choosing one as Toyota is often not known for its customer service.  While some get lucky in that their local dealer happens to be a good one, for many this is not the case.  This is even more true when it comes to the Mr2 as many dealers have limited experience with them.  This can be further proved as sometimes the dealer will exclude Mr2s from their T-belt specials as they either feel it takes longer to do the Mr2 vs other Toyotas (not really) or they are scared to work on the car.

If you plan to do this yourself, a little patience and some good tools go a long way.  A BGB (Big Green Book, nickname for the service manual) is a must.  Set aside a weekend if this is your first time to ensure that you get it done, and plan ahead.  Also be very sure that the belt is lined up on the correct teeth.  In doing the job yourself, you can save some cash, but more importantly you will feel good in knowing the job was done right.  A search through the Mr2 mailing list archive will once again give more detailed info.

The biggest problem that you will face if you do this job yourself is how to get the crankshaft pulley bolt off.  Over the years I've heard of many different ways on how others have been able to do this.  Some put the car in gear and hold the brakes while you try and get it off with a wrench.  Some stick a screwdriver in the flywheel to hold the engine still.  Others have had luck with sticking a wrench on the bolt, bracing the wrench on the ground and bumping the starter.  I myself have never had any luck with any of those methods.  So what method did I have luck with?  The 750 ft-lb 3/4 inch drive wrench that I rented. Talk about power!!!  The ole bolt came right off.  You may have better luck with a quality 1/2 drive wrench than I did with my cheap 1/2 drive wrench, so the 3/4 drive may have been an overkill.  Who knows....  Either way, plan ahead on this one, as this may ruin your day.  And if you do try the other method of taking the bolt off with a wrench and breaker bar while somehow holding the crank still, don't pull your back, and try not to break too many tools! :)

The second biggest problem you may face is how to get the crank pulley off once the bolt has been removed.  While sometimes the pulley will come off by pulling on it, the fit is usually too tight, and another method must be used. A very few have luck trying to pry it off with a large screw driver, but this is not recommended.  You can easily chip, and/or break the pulley this way.  The best method is to use a cheap puller that can be sourced from most any auto parts store.  There are two bolt holes in the pulley that you screw into with the puller.  There is very little room to work with, but when using the right puller, there is just enough room to get it off.

A common question that comes up when replacing the T-belt is what else can be replaced while you have everything off?  The answer to this question is the idler pulley and the water pump.  Both are but a few bolts away from replacement once the T-belt is off, and both run approx. ~$70 from Toyota.  So do you need to replace them?  Most all AW11 are over 100k miles these days, and if you still have the stock ones in and the budget allows it, the author along with others on the Mr2 list would recommend replacing them. Doing so will enhance the reliability of the car, as both can fail although it is not that often of an occurrence.  First check the idler pulley to see how well it spins when turned.  If any scratching noises are heard or non symmetrical rotation witnessed, consider your self lucky that it has not already seized up.  If it spins fine the decision is up to you.  For the water pump check to see how much play the impeller has and make a decision from there.  Once again as stated above, it is not that common for these two things to fail, but it does happen, and if you do replace them, you can consider this cheap insurance vs breaking down on the side of the road late at night.
 

Passing smog:

In general, a well cared for MKI will often pass smog checks with flying colors, as the 4A engine is a very well designed and very efficient engine. But in the case that yours is not in good shape, and will not pass smog inspection, David Kucharczyk, offers the following information to help pass your car, and get it back on the road:

Passing Smog
 

Smoke on start up:

As a general rule, white smoke on start up means water in the combustion chamber, while blue smoke means oil in the chamber. Often this is due to a blown head gasket, but not always. Sometimes blue smoke is due to the valve guides leaking, which is another common occurrence, often after many miles however. 
 

Cracked Exhaust Manifold:

A problem that appears mostly on the 85 and 86 Mr2s.  If you have this problem, the crack will very likely be found right by the #4 piston.  This was supposedly fixed in the 87 cars as a different metal is used in the manifolds.  While welding up the crack is often a common fix, this most times is only a temporary fix as the crack will often find its way back.  New replacement manifolds have shown to be much less prone to this cracking.
 

Transmission syncro wear and the infamous 5th gear popout

The 85-86 Mr2 had the C-50 transmission while the 87+ NA models had the C-52, which was an upgraded and strengthened version of the C-50.  This included stronger input and output shafts with larger diameter bearings on some of the
gears, along with updated syncros. The C-50s are notorious for having what's been described as the 5th gear popout.  This is where 5th gear will pop out engagement when the throttle is applied.  Some C-52s also have this problem.  The trannys will also sometimes have bad 2nd or 3rd gear syncros.  While one might think that these trannys are not that great because of all these problems, this is not entirely true.  If treated correctly, with a somewhat periodic changing of the tranny oil, a C-50 or C-52 can handle great amounts of power and last a long time.  If you have the 5th gear pop out problem, first check your tranny and engine mounts to see if they are worn out and causing too much engine movement.  After that, some have been able to stop the problem by replacing the 5th gear and synchro, others have not.  John Welch gives the following:

Having rebuilt several C-50/C-52's I think I have a pretty good idea what causes the 5th gear pop-out problem, and how to fix it.

The majority of the problem is the drivers habits, and improper lubrication.

The design on the "C" series of trannys requires that the fluid be kept at the proper level, and be in good condition.  It does not have a "pump" to circulate the fluid, it relies upon the movement of the gears in a bath to move the fluid throughout the trans case.

The use of a good quality fluid that is replaced every 20K miles should be considered "standard" for this trans.  I use Redline MTL-90 and am VERY happy with it.  You may have good results with other brands, or weights, I'm not here to debate them, but I like the Red Line.

The cause of the pop-out is not the syncros, hubs, or gears....  it's from wear on the main input shaft, and output shaft bearings.   The output shaft is almost submerged in gear oil, the input shaft however is partially out in the open,  This is the one that shows the most wear.

The nature of helical cut gears (used in almost all production manual tran's) is that they run quiet, but the down side is the power that is lost through the axial loads placed on them and the bearings.   Helical gears are constantly exerting a liner load down the length of the shaft that they are running on. This translates into a higher bearing load.

The "movement" of the shifter that you observe when changing throttle inputs is actually a display of the movement of the gear shafts inside the transmission, and play in the bearings. 

The solution is to replace the main bearings, and make sure that the pre load on them is correct when assembling the trans, and use a good lubricant.

As for the strength of the "C" series of trannys,   there are weak one's, and strong ones...   Some have additional webbing on the outside of the case and others don't.   I have been running a "webbed" C-52 in my 1987 MR-2 for quite awhile now....  and although I only get about 7K-10K miles out of a transmission,  I consider that the cost I must pay for pushing 22psi into a 4AGE motor.   Heck...   I'm happy I just got 15k miles out of my last engine, before I burnt a piston.

AHHH......   the cost of speed....


Alternator Failure (Charge, Cooling Fan, and Brake light lit)

For some reason, when Toyota designed the electrical system for the AW11 the system was wired so that when the alternator is about to go bad, the Charge, Cooling Fan, and Brake light will light up on the dash.  Sometimes it will only come on intermittently, and then will stay on all the time.  Sometimes it just comes on out of the blue and stays on.  Either way, the chances are that the alternator doesn't have much life left in it.  While it is usually recommended to buy new Toyota parts at all costs, this is not always the case when it comes to alternators.  Most local alternator rebuild shops are pretty good, and can usually rebuild a Toyota alternator for around $100.  I along with many others have done this on many different MR2s, and have had no problems.

For those with NAs, the alternator can be installed/uninstalled from the top of the car.  Just take out the coolant overflow tank, and unbolt the top bracket from the engine, unbolt the wires and mounting bolts, and out it comes.  For those with an SC, the change out is not as easy, as the alternator is on the exhaust side.